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PostPosted: 2010 01 18 14:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

as tai zinau ka matavau, bet kiti galbut maiso siuos terminus.
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PostPosted: 2010 01 18 15:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suspaudimo laipsnis - tai yra cilindro turio ir degimo kameros santykis.
Kompresija - tai yra stumoklio sukeliamas slegis cilindre.

Pas dyzelius suspaudimo laipsnis yra gerokai didesnis, kadangi dyzelis uzsidega savaime, t.y. nuo slegio.

Turbo benzininiuose varikliuose suspaudimo laipsnis dazniausiais 1-2 vnt mazesnis nei amtosferikuose.
Pvz pas wrx - 8:1, sti - 8.5:1, 3 litru legacy atmosferikas - 10:1, galingesniu atmosferiku neretai 11:1.

Taigi jums servise kai matuoja "kazka, bet nezinau ka"- jums matuoja kompresija, jei tai rezultato israiska buna bar matavimo vienetai.

Jie jums pamatuoja ir pasako procentine israisa, daromas "leak down" (sandarumo) testas.

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PostPosted: 2010 01 18 15:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

nu va, dabar aišku, matavau kompresiją Very Happy ačiū už išsamius atsakymus Wink
o dėl eclipse kompresijos, tai forume skaičiau kitam, kad pas daug ką apie 14-15, tik pas juos skiriasi kiekvienam cilindre apie 1bar'ą, pas mane iki 0,2-0,3 skirtumas buvo Cool

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PostPosted: 2010 01 18 16:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZaibaZ wrote:
nu va, dabar aišku, matavau kompresiją Very Happy ačiū už išsamius atsakymus Wink
o dėl eclipse kompresijos, tai forume skaičiau kitam, kad pas daug ką apie 14-15, tik pas juos skiriasi kiekvienam cilindre apie 1bar'ą, pas mane iki 0,2-0,3 skirtumas buvo Cool

leistinas skirtumas yra iki 1bar tarp maziausios ir diziausios reiksmes.

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PostPosted: 2010 01 18 20:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Audriuss wrote:

730d paskutinio modelio, man iskart uzkliuvo 16.5 suspaudimas...retai kur tiek tenka pastebet, kad butu, jei isvis yra dar kuriam nors varikly..

http://carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=37301
http://carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=5885
http://carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=18304

neabejoju, rasciau ir su dar didesniu suspaudimo laipsniu.
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PostPosted: 2010 01 18 22:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulius74 wrote:
Audriuss wrote:

730d paskutinio modelio, man iskart uzkliuvo 16.5 suspaudimas...retai kur tiek tenka pastebet, kad butu, jei isvis yra dar kuriam nors varikly..

http://carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=37301
http://carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=5885
http://carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=18304

neabejoju, rasciau ir su dar didesniu suspaudimo laipsniu.


opapapa...po 25:1...o ka nors is siu dienu automobiliu?
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PostPosted: 2010 01 19 01:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siu dienu dyzeliniuose varikliuose suspaudimo laipsnis labai krites del naudojamu technologiju, kas leidzia pasiekt DYDELI efektyvuma kuro degimo. Kazkada skaiciau straipsni apie common-rail sistema ir jos privalumus trukumus, tai ten labai aiskiai buvo paaiskinta apie suspaudimo laipsnio mazejima dyzeliniuose motoruose (gaila niekaip nerandu to straipsnio, lietuviskas net buvo).
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PostPosted: 2010 01 19 21:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Audriuss wrote:
paulius74 wrote:
Audriuss wrote:

730d paskutinio modelio, man iskart uzkliuvo 16.5 suspaudimas...retai kur tiek tenka pastebet, kad butu, jei isvis yra dar kuriam nors varikly..

http://carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=37301
http://carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=5885
http://carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=18304

neabejoju, rasciau ir su dar didesniu suspaudimo laipsniu.


opapapa...po 25:1...o ka nors is siu dienu automobiliu?

http://www.catalog.auto.ru/catalog/cars/card/10899.html
http://www.catalog.auto.ru/catalog/cars/card/38513.html
http://www.catalog.auto.ru/catalog/cars/card/38550.html
http://www.catalog.auto.ru/catalog/cars/card/36051.html

ne po 23, bet uz 16,5 daugiau.
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PostPosted: 2010 01 19 22:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulius74 wrote:
Audriuss wrote:
paulius74 wrote:
Audriuss wrote:

730d paskutinio modelio, man iskart uzkliuvo 16.5 suspaudimas...retai kur tiek tenka pastebet, kad butu, jei isvis yra dar kuriam nors varikly..

http://carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=37301
http://carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=5885
http://carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=18304

neabejoju, rasciau ir su dar didesniu suspaudimo laipsniu.


opapapa...po 25:1...o ka nors is siu dienu automobiliu?

http://www.catalog.auto.ru/catalog/cars/card/10899.html
http://www.catalog.auto.ru/catalog/cars/card/38513.html
http://www.catalog.auto.ru/catalog/cars/card/38550.html
http://www.catalog.auto.ru/catalog/cars/card/36051.html

ne po 23, bet uz 16,5 daugiau.


geras, niekad kazkaip i dyzeliu suspaudima neatkreipdavau demesio..
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