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PostPosted: 2008 12 09 23:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tai jei nieks neparems ir nebus surinkti tie 2kUsd, kas tada?
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PostPosted: 2008 12 09 23:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forumui reikia viso serverio? Neblogai. Jei tikrai reikia, argumentuok.
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PostPosted: 2008 12 09 23:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

Na sąmata tikrai didelė. Ar tikrai reikia tokio serverio TIK forumui? Smile
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PostPosted: 2008 12 09 23:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kad serveris tiek kainuoja, pilnai tikiu. As niekaip nesuprantu, pro kuri gala mums reikia serverio.
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PostPosted: 2008 12 10 08:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nesinori veltis i argumentu kara su nekuriais zmonemis, bet klausimai aktualus ir kitiems, todel tureciau i juos atsakyti:

Kam reikalingas serveris, kodel taip brangiai, kiek trafiko ir kt?
As sita foruma kuruoju nuo 2002 metu ir esu isbandes daug variantu hostingui shared, vps, dedicated. Pasirinkau dedikuota, nes tada gauni realu supporta + daug galios + garantuoti resursai + maksimalus saugumas. Galingesnio serverio su talpesniais diskais reikia, nes yra automatiskai daromos rezervines kopijos, kurios paskui yra nukraunamos i kita PC. Norisi kazka vystyti daugiau pvz. foto, video ir t.t. + naujos forumo funkcijos. Serverio traffica pagrinde suryja pats forumas + backupu siuntimai.
Serverio nuomos kaina yra tokia, kokia padiktuoja rinka. Nera sunku suzinoti kainas - www.google.com Aisku, kad yra variantu ir po 50 USD/men, bet toki jau turejau - daznai issijungdavo/pakibdavo serveris, paskui kelias dienas reikdavo bombarduoti meilais kad ijungtu, interneto rysys nestabilus (vien 'packet loss'), jokio supporto ir t.t. aciu, ant to paties greblio 2 kartus nenoriu lipti.

Kas bus jei bus surinkta maziau lesu?
Ieskosiu lesu kitais kanalais. Jeigu ir tada nepavyks - teks mazinti norus ir prisitaikyti prie aktualaus biudzeto.
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PostPosted: 2008 12 10 09:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Na, jei visi nuolat forume besilankantys sumestu po 100 Lt, suma galima surinkti, bet skamba siek tiek utopiskai...
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PostPosted: 2008 12 10 09:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S. prasau rasykite tik konstruktyvius postus, nes kitus pratrinsiu.
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PostPosted: 2008 12 10 09:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edo,
tikslas ambicingas. Kita vertus pinigu reikia ne vienai imokai, todel laiko yra Smile Manau surinkus 600 USD butu galima uzsakineti nauja serveri ir tiketis likusia suma surinkti veliau.
P.S. gal pavyks uztaikyti ant kalediniu nuolaidu ir uz pinigus serveri isnuomoti ilgesniam nei 12 men terminui.

P.S.S. 160 USD as paemiau kaip varianta, kuri galima nupirkti betkada t.y. be jokiu nuolaidu ir derybu. Man norisi, kad forumas butu hostinamas normaliame DC, o ne kokiame daugiabucio rusyje ir dar norisi, kad butu padorus suportas, kad atsitikus nelaimei nereiktu laukti savaites kol DC personalas paspaus power mygtuka.
negi gyvenime nesate pasimoke, kad skupus moka du kartus?



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Na, jei visi nuolat forume besilankantys sumestu po 100 Lt, suma galima surinkti, bet skamba siek tiek utopiskai...
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PostPosted: 2008 12 10 12:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

sutinku su edo nuomone,negi sunku visiem daug besilaikantiem paimt ir pagelbet forumui.Kiek supratau mum bus nuo to tik geriau.
As jau prisidejau prie skladkes Wink

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PostPosted: 2008 12 10 13:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaip suprantu, babkes ne uz "adminavima", o uz nauja serveri, hosting'a (ar kaip ten Very Happy).
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PostPosted: 2008 12 10 14:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taip, istrinsiu ir dar karta. Sakiau, kad laukiu konstruktyciu minciu, o ne kalusimu "kodel neatiduodi forumo kitam adminui".
P.S. kodel tu galvoji, kad as tau turiu kazka irodineti?

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PostPosted: 2008 12 10 14:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taip. Pinigai renkami isskirtinai tik serverio nuomai padengti.
Jeigu pavyks surinkti didesne suma bus galima uzmoketi i prieki ir taip issidereti geresne kaina, todel galbut ta suma padengs ne 12 men islaidas o pvz 15 men.

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Kaip suprantu, babkes ne uz "adminavima", o uz nauja serveri, hosting'a (ar kaip ten Very Happy).
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PostPosted: 2008 12 10 14:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taip iseina kad kiekvienais metais reikes moket tokias sumas?
ir cia vien tik uz licenzija softo valdymo. Tokia sakyciau nepigi.

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PostPosted: 2008 12 10 14:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Na kaip jus viska tiesmukai suprantat ... moket nereikes ir nereikia! Prasoma parama ir kiekvienas pasirenka nori paremti ar ne.

P.S. softas ten turi buti legalus, nes ji diegia tiekejas, bet jo kaina nera didele t.y. ~10-20USD/men. priklausomai nuo versijos ir 'navarotu'.

P.S.S. visus metus iki siol mokejau is savo kisenes ir labai nesiskundziau, bet kadangi planuoju atnaujinti serveri i nauja bei galingesni (ant dabartinio forumas sukasi jau keli metai ir visgi dideja tikimybe kad sena gelezis prades fail'inti, o kiek metu jis sukosi iki redline? o sukasi 24x7, kiek metu gali HDD taip veikti?) tai suma kiek isaugo ir prasau norinciu ir galinciu prisideti ir parenti foruma.

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Taip iseina kad kiekvienais metais reikes moket tokias sumas?
ir cia vien tik uz licenzija softo valdymo. Tokia sakyciau nepigi.
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PostPosted: 2008 12 10 15:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

lrs, tie patys serveriai.lt teikia dedikuotu serveriu paslaugas, kaina 180 litu i menesi. Niekur nematau, kad sitam forumui reikia tokiu resursu, nebent planuoji aibe galimybiu idiegti. Backup'us kievienas normalus hostingas atlieka. Atsargines kopijos suryja dauguma traffic'o? Hmmz, kiek cia per diena papildomai info prirasoma? Nebent tu kas valanda kopijuoji visa DB. Idomu, kiek realiai uzima visas forumas su turima info, ir kokie buvo pastaruju metu traffico logai?
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